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- [10:23:36]DJForcehi
- [10:23:50]DJForceêòî íèáóäü ãîâîðèò íà ðóññêîì?
- [10:24:56]DJForceÕî÷ó óñòàíîâèòü OpenVAS-8 BETA, íî íè ãäå íå ìîãó íàéòè íè êàêîé äîêóìåíòàöèè ïî óñòàíîâêå...
- [10:25:16]DJForceÌîæåò åñòü ó êîãî íèáóäü èíñòðóêöèÿ?
- [10:29:26]mimeDJForce: i'm not able to read what you writing, just get some strange signs...
- [10:29:32]xeloditto
- [10:31:01]DJForce))
- [10:31:28]DJForceHey, and now?
- [10:31:34]mimebetter :)
- [10:31:34]xelomuch better
- [10:31:55]DJForceI want to install OpenVAS-8 BETA, but none where I can not find any documentation or installation ...
- [10:32:10]DJForceCould someone help me?
- [10:32:28]mimehttps://svn.wald.intevation.org/svn/openvas/trunk/openvas-libraries/INSTALL
- [10:34:11]mimehttp://hackertarget.com/install-openvas-7-ubuntu/ <- for v7 but should work for v8 too
- [10:34:41]DJForcethe second link I know
- [10:34:49]DJForcethanks for the first
- [10:36:06]mimefor any package (scanner, manager,libraries, gsa) it's always "https://svn.wald.intevation.org/svn/openvas/trunk/<PACKAGE>/INSTALL"
- [10:36:49]DJForceand documentation of commands have?
- [10:36:49]DJForceFor example the creation of a repository administrator or update feeds
- [10:37:01]DJForceîê
- [10:37:04]DJForceok
- [10:38:24]DJForcewhat a program OSPd 1.0 + beta2?
- [10:40:48]DJForceStill, a couple of months ago, I tried virtual appliance v7. But then I could not even log in to the web interface as no command will not approached to create a user with administrator privileges.
- [10:46:31]xelotry openvasmd --create-user
- [10:58:54]xeloHas someone experience in using ActiveDirectory for user authentication? I have create an auth.conf file in /var/lib/openvas/users (also tried /var/lib/openvas/) but openvasmd claims "lib auth: [...] Authentication configuration not found.", GSA does not provide an interface for AD-Configuration. I expect that openvas was compiled with ldap / ad support in the atomic-repositories for centos. Have I missed somthing?
- [10:59:31]xelo(openvas 7 , centos 7)
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- [14:08:40]bluedragonhey
- [14:16:33]mimehi
- [14:17:20]SpaceDoGI'm trying to import the DISA STIG Baseline OVAL, but GBSD/OpenVAS doesn't accept it, anyone have any thoughts?
- [14:30:40]atomicturtleI did some new packages for that last month
- [14:30:52]atomicturtleI ended up needing to use openscap to parse it though
- [14:31:19]atomicturtleIm not sure if thats because the format changed, or because ovaldi just isnt very good. I did make updated ovaldi packages as well
- [14:32:51]atomicturtleSpaceDoG: so first, grab the package scap-security-guide from atomic. This has the latest DISA stig, its ahead of the one from the iase site
- [14:35:25]atomicturtlethis also has EL7 stigs
- [14:35:54]bluedragoni'm trying to run a scan but get Failed to gnutls_bye: Error in the push function.
- [14:39:11]bluedragonTask get's stuck on 1%
- [14:57:39]SpaceDoGalright atmoitcturtle
- [14:58:38]SpaceDoG scap-security-guide noarch 0.1.17-1.20140524git2eeeca7.el6.art atomic 1.2 M is what's installing
- [14:58:47]atomicturtleI'll have a new scap-security-guide out shortly, there are a lot of updates to it
- [14:59:18]atomicturtlelooks like 0.1.17 is about 100 commits behind
- [14:59:34]SpaceDoGouch.. ok btw what's after installing the package? ;-)
- [14:59:55]atomicturtleI had to use openscap to run the scan
- [15:00:02]SpaceDoGah ok
- [15:00:31]SpaceDoGI was hoping to do it all within GBS/OpenVAS like you can with Nessus. Not sure if openscap will scan Windows along side Linux
- [15:00:44]atomicturtleat the time i was using ovaldi 5.3 and it couldnt handle it. Ive since updated ovaldi in the repo to 5.10.1.6, so its entirely possible that it works with it, I just havent tested it yet
- [15:01:31]atomicturtleit used to, but I hadnt done it directly with openvas in so long (years) I didnt stay on top of it. It could be that the version of ovaldi wasnt compatible
- [15:01:45]atomicturtleif you're up to testing it against ovaldi 5.10.1.6 right now that'd help
- [15:02:15]atomicturtleopenscap I know works which doesnt help, since openvas is using ovaldi to parse it
- [15:02:18]SpaceDoGIf I knew how, I would
- [15:02:37]atomicturtleha me too :P man ovaldi and throw commands at it til it works :P Thats my method
- [15:03:08]atomicturtleI know the definitions are good at least
- [15:03:36]atomicturtleor maybe look at the ovaldi nvts as a cheatsheet
- [15:07:47]SpaceDoGin GBS?
- [15:09:14]atomicturtlewhats that
- [15:11:10]SpaceDoGthe greebone security page
- [15:11:29]atomicturtleis that in gsad or something?
- [15:11:32]SpaceDoGyea
- [15:11:40]SpaceDoGthe web ui ;-)
- [15:11:59]atomicturtleso gsad
- [15:12:22]SpaceDoGyea my bad
- [15:13:00]SpaceDoGwell ovaldi works with the iase (DISA) benchmark for windows
- [15:14:24]SpaceDoGwell at least the U_Windows_2008_MS_V6R1.28_STIG_Benchmark-oval.xml
- [15:14:39]SpaceDoGvia ovaldi -m -o U_Windows_2008_MS_V6R1.28_STIG_Benchmark-oval.xml
- [15:15:29]atomicturtleok thats good news, ovaldi works
- [15:16:01]atomicturtlethe scap-security guide installs them to: /usr/share/xml/scap/ssg/content/
- [15:16:24]atomicturtleyou'll see both the oval and xccdf's in there
- [15:16:26]SpaceDoGchecking
- [15:16:41]SpaceDoGawe it only has linux stuff booo :(
- [15:16:43]atomicturtlethe xccdfs have profiles for different configurations and security levels
- [15:16:53]atomicturtlewell yeah these are the redhat ones
- [15:17:14]atomicturtlenote that there are EL7 definitions in there
- [15:17:14]SpaceDoGssg-rhe6-cpe-oval.xml fails
- [15:17:27]atomicturtleyou cant even get that off the IASE site yet
- [15:17:57]atomicturtlenot the cpe file, the checks live in ssg-rhel6-oval.xml and ssg-rhel7-oval.xml
- [15:18:09]atomicturtlewith openscap you'd call both the xccdf & oval together
- [15:18:32]SpaceDoGpast binnig what I ran
- [15:18:44]SpaceDoGhttp://pastebin.com/cJDyUzqy
- [15:19:08]atomicturtlenice one ovaldi :P
- [15:19:14]SpaceDoGdamn right
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- [15:22:11]atomicturtleopenscap example: oscap oval eval --results oval-results.xml /usr/share/xml/scap/ssg/content/ssg-rhel6-oval.xml
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- [15:22:38]atomicturtlerunning the xccdf is way more interesting though, you can feed the output from it back into oscap and it will generate a remediation script
- [15:23:54]atomicturtleand it has profiles for different configurations, like desktop (and level), server, jboss, etc
- [15:24:52]SpaceDoGinteresting... I just installed openscap and have 0 commands for it (oscap or openscap)
- [15:25:19]atomicturtleoscap is in openscap-utils
- [15:27:55]SpaceDoGblargh... I need to start writing a freaking doc/wiki on this
- [15:28:06]atomicturtleand then you can convert that oval-results.xml to a report with: oscap oval generate report oval-results.xml > foo.html
- [15:28:20]atomicturtlethere are some frontends to this
- [15:28:42]SpaceDoGI don't think there's a workbench rpm (at least I haven't found one yet)
- [15:28:47]atomicturtlescap-security-workbench is what I use
- [15:29:23]SpaceDoGsadly it's not in the repo
- [15:29:45]atomicturtleit is for FC20
- [15:29:58]atomicturtleI think I can get that to work for el7, el6 Im not sure about
- [15:30:03]SpaceDoGand I'm currently doing this on RHEL/CENTOS 6
- [15:30:06]SpaceDoGbooo :(
- [15:30:20]SpaceDoGCentOS for home grown testing and RHEL in AWS
- [15:30:22]atomicturtleI'll see what I can do there
- [15:30:28]atomicturtleooh aws huh
- [15:30:45]SpaceDoGyea I currently manage 400 or so instances
- [15:31:00]atomicturtleI cant stand getting stuck with aws instances. The performance is so unpredictable
- [15:31:04]SpaceDoGand that count is only going up and I'm trying to push security
- [15:31:14]SpaceDoGit depends on what size and configuration you run with
- [15:31:15]atomicturtleyeah Ive been there :P
- [15:31:20]SpaceDoGI've not had issues yet
- [15:31:27]atomicturtleIve had to deal with everything there
- [15:31:32]SpaceDoGEspecially with the new m3 instances running on SSD
- [15:31:32]atomicturtlefor years
- [15:31:45]atomicturtleIve still got stuff on their xen 3 gear
- [15:31:47]SpaceDoGI just started playing/working in AWS last April
- [15:31:50]atomicturtletalk about baaaaaaaaad
- [15:31:59]SpaceDoGdedi hw?
- [15:32:31]atomicturtlewe did end up moving a lot of stuff off of aws to dedicated gear yes
- [15:33:21]SpaceDoGNo I mean are you using dedi in AWS. If not all you have to do is stop/start the instance to potentially get newer hw
- [15:33:25]atomicturtlefor a commercial client with a mobile game platform, we were scaling over 400 instances per day to handle it (which was like 20K a month base btw). We moved it off to dedicated systems
- [15:33:50]atomicturtleand that only needed 8 boxes
- [15:34:13]atomicturtleno these cant be moved, the infrastructure its on is all legacy stuff in aws
- [15:34:21]SpaceDoGouch
- [15:34:39]atomicturtleand the client would rather spend more money keeping them alive than to migrate them
- [15:34:41]SpaceDoGyea I've been trying to convince the powers that be to switch to reserved instances for cost cutting measures
- [15:35:13]SpaceDoGthey're spending $20k/mo or so for like 150 instances but we've dropped that by 6k by running on a schedule
- [15:35:31]SpaceDoGthat sounds very unpleasant
- [15:35:38]atomicturtleyeah they were, now they're spending about 1500/mo
- [15:36:09]atomicturtlein hind sight we should have asked them for 1/2 the money we saved them to do that :P
- [15:36:09]SpaceDoGthat's pretty good
- [15:36:19]atomicturtleyeah and its faster
- [15:36:24]SpaceDoGAh the joys of being a contractor
- [15:36:26]atomicturtlehandling about 90 million users
- [15:36:36]SpaceDoGnice
- [15:37:00]SpaceDoGthis latest AWS outage pissed me off though. I had to bring down my entire account set with like 6 different environments
- [15:37:33]atomicturtleit gets better, you know what the ideal time to do maintenance for a game company is? 11am on a tuesday. The last thing you ever do for gaming companies is make changes after hours or on a weekend :P
- [15:38:03]atomicturtlethe outage from last thursday?
- [15:38:05]SpaceDoGthat's exactly why Bliz does it when they do
- [15:38:09]SpaceDoGno it's still ongoing
- [15:38:15]atomicturtleagain??
- [15:38:51]SpaceDoGYea, I've had servers rebooted nightly since Friday... luckily I stopped all of the services before they had to be restarted
- [15:39:09]SpaceDoGWe even tried to potentially pre-empt it by powering off our servers and hoping to start back up on maint free hw
- [15:39:12]SpaceDoGnot that lucky
- [15:39:43]SpaceDoGservers were still rebooted past the 1am outage (apparently it went from 1-6/7 and there was no telling when things would be rebooted)
- [15:39:45]atomicturtlelooks like at most we've only got 1 system out on AWS right now
- [15:40:11]atomicturtlehow many are you STIG'ing?
- [15:40:36]atomicturtleor are you just testing them against the stig
- [15:41:28]SpaceDoGEventually I'll have around 100 or stigged... currently just doing some baselines and ami'ing them :-)
- [15:41:33]SpaceDoGso like 3
- [15:41:44]SpaceDoGbut I have to validate that I've met the STIG
- [15:41:57]atomicturtleok so check this out using the xccdf:
- [15:41:59]SpaceDoGI'm still amazed at few IT folks know what STIGs are
- [15:42:29]SpaceDoGI think I only know because I spent 10.5 years in the Army
- [15:42:39]SpaceDoGhttp://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/ec2-maintenance-update/
- [15:42:47]atomicturtleoscap xccdf eval --profile server --results results.xml /usr/share/xml/scap/ssg/content/ssg-rhel6-xccdf.xml
- [15:43:00]atomicturtleIve had a mix
- [15:43:22]SpaceDoGarg... stupid mIRC
- [15:43:43]atomicturtleso that is designed to expect it to be rhel, if you run it on centos its not going to work
- [15:43:53]atomicturtlebut I can modify it to work with centos pretty easily
- [15:44:35]atomicturtleyou can use the oval file too, the difference is the xccdf is prettier and it can be used to narrow the test scope to the profile (server in this case)
- [15:44:43]SpaceDoGlol it comes back saying NA because I'm not on RHEL :-)
- [15:45:00]atomicturtleyou're on centos 6.5 right?
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- [15:45:16]SpaceDoGyup
- [15:45:18]atomicturtlea hack is to modify /etc/redhat-release to look like a rhel 6 box
- [15:45:37]SpaceDoGyea
- [15:45:38]atomicturtlethe real fix I'll do now, by modifying the xccdf file
- [15:45:51]atomicturtleyou can see right away how much nicer that is to look at though
- [15:46:05]SpaceDoGrofl
- [15:46:23]SpaceDoG/etc/redhat-release is symbolic to /etc/centos-release
- [15:46:23]atomicturtlethis is also where the remediation data lives, if you want to give that a shot
- [15:47:25]atomicturtleIve been working on those idependently as scripts here: https://github.com/atomicturtle/t-stig
- [15:48:15]atomicturtlethose are mapped to the control id in the official DISA stig, so if you've got a certifier referencing something by its stig ID, the remediation scripts line up
- [15:49:03]SpaceDoGwow... you've got everything as an individual script... I was just building a master script with everything inside of it
- [15:49:37]SpaceDoGwell, at least for testing/validating
- [15:49:40]atomicturtleyeah it makes more sense as separate scripts
- [15:50:07]atomicturtleif they only test its probably because its something you cant fix in a script, like a partition or something along those lines
- [15:50:18]SpaceDoGdamn oscap only does localized testing... I'm trying so very hard not to have to install additional software in Linux or Windows
- [15:50:34]atomicturtlethe scap workbench can do remote tests
- [15:51:07]atomicturtlegetting oscap in place of ovaldi is where Im going with this for openvas
- [15:51:19]SpaceDoGnice
- [15:51:57]atomicturtleleaving aside the other capabilities of oscap aside, its really really fast
- [15:52:27]atomicturtlethe last time I used ovaldi in openvas, scanning a single system took hours
- [15:53:14]SpaceDoGI'm still trying to get familiar with openvas... I've only recently started looking into using it
- [15:58:20]SpaceDoGSo I wouldn't know where/how to begin to make the switch
- [15:59:44]SpaceDoGand the only thing Google shows me is an email thread from 11 Nov
- [16:01:18]atomicturtlepresumably going nowhere :P
- [16:02:32]bluedragonWhat part of openvas gets updated weekly? is it just nvts i need to sync?
- [16:03:09]atomicturtleHmm, I see an ovaldi update is available. Let me see if that can handle parsing the newer oval format these guy are using
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- [16:34:12]SpaceDoGlemme know how it goes atomicturtle
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- [20:23:08]SpaceDoGhow's the testing going atomicturtle?
- [20:24:17]atomicturtlebuild issues with it
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- [20:36:40]DJForcetry openvasmd --create-user - not work in virtual appliance v7 2.1
- [20:36:50]DJForcehow create user&
- [20:37:19]DJForceor how to login to the web interface??? Please help me
- [20:38:42]DJForceoh... admin -admin work))
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